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Hotwire Hotel: 4* San Francisco (Embarcadaro 29/11/10 - 03/12/10) $119

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Hi, can you please help me figure out what hotel this is?

The amenities are as follows:

Boutique

Oceanfront

Smoke free room

Fitness centre

Restaurant(s)

Business centre

High speed internet

Golf nearby

Spa services

Its also showing a tripadvisor rating of 4.5 out of 5.

This is my first post so I hope I've given all the necessary information.

Many Thanks

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Welcome to Betterbidding. :)

Can you clarify the dates of travel? If you are looking at the Embarcadero area in SF for 3/11-12, I'm not seeing this particular listing.

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My best guess: this is the Harbor Court, upgraded from 3.5* to 4*, displaying a new set of icons.

I don't think I've seen the Oceanfront icon at a San Francisco hotel before.

If you want more certainty before committing to four nights you could purchase just one night first, then separately the other three nights, if you're happy with the initial result.

Please use this HOTWIRE link if you purchase and let us know if this is Harbor Court or not.

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I tend to agree with Colfax's guess of the Harbor Court. The hotel fronts San Francisco Bay along the Embarcadero. As to Hotwire's rate of $119 per night for your dates, if you go to the hotel's website they are selling for $97 (3 night minimum stay required). If you're a bit of a gambler, and this is indeed the Harbor Court, you could purchase from HOTWIRE and then file for their double-the-difference price guarantee. If approved, Hotwire would refund you $44 per night based on the hotel's lower rate of $97 per night.

As a side note, I think some of the icons are a bit of a stretch on HOTWIRE's part. Hotwire's own description of a restaurant is one that is "on premises". On the hotel's website, it says there's a restaurant adjacent to the hotel which has a different address than the hotel itself. As to the fitness icon, the hotel website indicates discount rates at the nearby YMCA. With regard to the golf icon, I'm not aware of one in the immediate area. However HOTWIRE plays it cool with the golf description not to define distances from the hotel. But despite these oddities, I would still guess it's the Harbor Court. And the 4.5 Tripadvisor rating is a match, too.

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You may have something there, Steve. The Vitale never entered my mind (obviously). Not only is it a Tripadvisor match, but also the restaurant and fitness center are both on site as opposed to "neighboring" with regard to the Harbor Court. If this is the Vitale, IMO $119 is a good rate considering the fact this is one of the more pricey hotels in the Embarcadero zone.

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It came up on HOTWIRE in the past year, when someone asked for an ID. I posted it could be the Vitale, but alas they never posted back. Might have to check it out myself sometime in the future.

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I think you're probably right, slruud. Vitale seems more likely than Harbor Court upgraded to 4*.

I tried some random dates on Hotwire to see if I could make Harbor Court appear as a 3.5* with its known icons. If I find Harbor Court as 3.5* for any dates that means the 4* is something else. But no matter what dates I check the Embarcadero 3.5* that comes up is Club Quarters, not Harbor Court.

Still I think Vitale is most likely. You've convinced me.

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As a side note, I think some of the icons are a bit of a stretch on HOTWIRE's part. Hotwire's own description of a restaurant is one that is "on premises". On the hotel's website, it says there's a restaurant adjacent to the hotel which has a different address than the hotel itself.
Sometime Hotwire plays loosey goosey with that Restaurant icon.

A couple weeks ago another poster reported buying a Hotwire hotel in Sacramento with a Restaurant icon, among others. It turned out to be a Motel 6. (The only time I've seen Motel 6 come up on Hotwire, btw.)

Motel 6 doesn't have a restaurant and the poster called Hotwire to complain. Hotwire told him the Applebee's next door was the restaurant. To me next door is not "on the premises", unless the resaturant and hotel are under common management.

"Oceanfront" is another Hotwire icon you have to watch out for. It's often attached to hotels that aren't oceanfront. Here's Hotwire's definition of "Oceanfront":

Property is located along the ocean, but not directly on a beach. For example, the hotel may be situated on a bluff along the coastline.

You could argue that Vitale (and Harbor Court) aren't on the ocean at all, but rather on the bay, and even then they're across a busy street from the bay.

But after all the caveats $119 still seems like a good price for Vitale.

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Checking Hotwire for a future trip, 12/16 - 1218, there is a 3* with the amenities matching Harbor Court, and matching 4.5 Tripadvisor rating. I guess it's just as possible to be downgraded as well as upgraded. Hopefully the OP will end the suspense.

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Thanks for all of your input. I haven't actually decided what area/hotel to go for yet. When I do I'll be sure to book through this site and keep you posted on the results.

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I used Hotwire to try to find a room for memorial day weekend. I was surprised to find a 4* hotel that wasn't listed in the Hotel list posted at this site. I finally stumbled upon this thread and knew it was a toss up between Harbor Court and Hotel Vitale. I rolled the dice for $129.

Just for future reference, in case you want to update your listing, it ended up being the Hotel Vitale.

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lajollan

Welcome to BetterBidding.

Can you please post your win with the details (date, zone, star rating, price and amenities) in a separate topic.

Yellowdog.

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