See reason for bidding this way below, perhaps a text like this could be added to a more general posting to help other newbies? Started 4* 55$ LAX 4* 60$ LAX, CulverCity, 3* 50$ Lax, CulverCity, closed window 3* $55 LAX, closed window 4* $65 Lax 3* $60 Lax WON Priceline said for LAX on this date 1 Star $65 2 Star $68 3 Star $154 4 Star $209 Official price advance rate for this hotel 184$ This price is okay because the saved money justify the loss in points for my other none priceline choice. I already stayed there and hope to slip in my number with status to get lounge access. (i know, i know) Could not book through savebarn.com because this is blocked through a firewall I cannot turn off here. :) But I know about it and want to book throught it and will try to do the other bookings from another place. ! :) Why this booking strategy. I am a newbie to priceline and hotwire and there are not many basic information around which give you a quickstart *why* someone books or why a special strategy is chose. I knew I have to be careful what to add as well as that I can close my browser. I never saw anything which resembles the here often described "priceline offered me a bid" Objectives: I needed a stay at LAX, pref. with airport shuttle, for 2006-09-26. Prices for a hotel on howire for a 3* where around 77 dollars, one 4* for 117. Priceline is said to be cheaper. Checked LAX listening on this board and tried to get a feel for it, 3* around this date seemed to be possible for 60. Steps: 1. 4* 55$ LAX Impossible bid to get a feel for what is happening here? 2. 4* 60$ LAX, CulverCity, Just wanted to raise by 5 dollar but learned I had to change something else too. 3. 3* 50$ Lax, CulverCity, Added 3* level and rebid at 50$ 4. closed window I realized that I don't want / cannot have a hotel in Culver City! Little panik attack. 5. 3* $55 LAX, Thought about it. 50$ for 3* did not go through. I can update in the next step with 5$ more and check 4* as 'change' 6. closed window Once the bid failed I saw that my idea had failed as well, because choosing 3* meant: including 4*. As there was nothing else to do what I did want to change (55 dollar for a 2,5 star was too much!) - closed window. 7. 4* $65 Lax I had not tried that one, could have worked. 8. 3* $60 Lax Added 3* level and rebid at 60$ bet got accepted. Additional possibilty I took a close look at the map and learned that there are areas where there are no 4* hotels. Going 4* Lax with different bids and adding these regions is a 'change' but will have no bad effect. hth nexus