Thanks for quick reply! will go with Hotwire as you suggested. For 10/21-10/24 listing 2 adults, 2 kids, I did find: 4.5* restaurant, pool, fitness cent, bus centr, spa $121 4* rest, pool, fit centr, bus centr, (best value) $84 3.5* rest, pool, fit centr, bus centr, spa (favorite) $ 76 my guesses are Intercontinental on Front str, Hilton, Sheraton respectively ?????? same dates for 2 adults, 1 child (baby cd sleep in king with us) + cot maybe additional listed: 4* rest, pool , fit centr, bus cntr $90 cd this be the Hotel Intercontinental on Bloor?? last question: to insure a great room, is it possible to go with a 4* and pay extra ($50??/night) for upgraded room? thanks again!