Okay, I saw someone got the Hotel Nikko for the exact dates I'm looking for, in the exact area, for $120. I bid $120 for a 4 star on the same dates, in USW and got nothing. I added Civic Center, and bumped my bid up to $150, nothing. Then I added botique along with 4 star, and still nothing for $150. Guess I missed the window for the Hotel Nikko rooms. I'm not sure about 3 stars, as I really would like to stay in Botique or above. Back up plan is to use my boyfriend's Starwood points at the W, but that will pretty much wipe out all his points so I'm trying to avoid that. I looked at Hotline, and haven't seen any new wins there for the dates I'm looking at. Guess I'll try again tomorrow - let me know if there are more suggestions, and thanks for all your help. Tough weekend!