shadowdriver, rates are date sensitive. You can't look at an old reported win and expext to get the same rate 3 months after. There is a big difference on weekdays, holidays, weekends, number of nights, winter and summer etc. A good thing to do is to look at the boards reported hotels. Check the rack rates for your stay and get a "feeling" what you should bid. If you see a rate at a hotels $275/night for one of your hotels. You now know that the old reported win at $60 is nothing to go on. also looking at the HOTWIRE rates for the city you bid at. HOTWIRE rates also give you a clue on what level you should bid at. Getting rejected all the time is frustrating. But knowing the "level" on what to bid helps. also when you become a frequent bidder and find your way to "collect" information is the bidding part more easy. Good luck! Henrik.