thereuare, Thanks again for your help. I did find it! Also, I did clarify my BV Hilton bid under my original post but in case you didn't read it, "thereugo" again! ------------------------------------ thereuare, Thanks for your reply. You got everything exactly right. - I got the Beverly Hilton at $82 for Oct 26th in the Beverly Hills/Westwood area. - I am bidding in the same area for Oct 24th and 25th now. - I have also added one more zone to my 4* bid which is Hollywood/West Hollywood. Note the only 4* hotel in this zone is Wyndham Belage. - I checked for the prices on the hotel's web sites directly and it is not that expensive - from $140 to $180 so my $75 -$82 should be successful but they are not. Thanks!