I just discussed it with the wife, so we bid again for 3* MTE, MTW, MTS $130 then $135 and didn't work. I'm beginning to think there is one of these days that is full, probably Saturday. When I search rates with the online sites, they often say saturday is the most expensive. That could be messing everything up. I wouldn't mind splitting the room but I think my wife would. She doesn't even care if we're in a 1 or 2 * she doesn't plan to be in the room. :) I'll discuss it with her. Here is some more information: Dates: 07/09 - 07/13 (4 nights) Areas: Midtown 2 people (double bed is fine) I have thought about NJ but don't know how to take the trains. I live outside Paris and take trains to work every day so I'm quite used to it and can figure it out but I think it'd be much easier to have a hotel within walking distance of the shopping areas. That way we could return to the hotel to drop off purchases, rest up, etc. My wife is 4.5 months pregnant so that could come in handy although a month & a half ago we were in Venice and we were gone from morning to evening nonstop so we never know. For NJ, is there really a big savings? If it's the same price but a nicer hotel, we'd prefer the lesser quality hotel in NYC. The hotel would have to be near the train station. I assume the 10 min ride is to the south manhattan and then one takes the subway up to midtown. Definitely something to consider. I looked at hotels on long island but they were the same price (about $130) so we figure better to have a not so nice hotel in midtown. My wife likes the "walking distance to Macy's" part. :) Thanks for the advice, Michael