Sorry for the extra thread! I'll get the hang of this. I have received no counters as of yet on this trip. I continue at least for now to max out at $80 and add areas and star levels along the way. It seesm that each day someone is winning in this range so I don't see any point now in radically changing tactics. Over the years, I have not had to "give in" too often. I did try again today maxing out at $80, 3 1/2 stars, north river and the loop.......but denied once more. I still have time so I'm not losing sleep over it.